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how much am I going to hate Windows Vista when I inevitably have to replace my computer?

I've heard nothing but trash about Vista, and both the organization I work for and the huge software corporation currently working side by side with us still specify Windows XP on their computers. I hear that Dell is offering a "downgrade" to Windows XP on their new laptops.

All of this tells me that I should be very very dubious about going to Vista. Any thoughts, anyone?

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blueraccoon
Dec. 17th, 2008 05:04 am (UTC)
Get a Mac :)
emeraldsedai
Dec. 17th, 2008 06:01 am (UTC)
Heh. I knew someone was gonna say that!

I'm pretty tied in to the Windows world because of various software and peripheral investments, and my work.

Now I'm waiting for someone (*eyes kernelm warily* to suggest Linux.
lamentables
Dec. 17th, 2008 06:30 am (UTC)
I paid extra to have XP on my Dell laptop. Mr L copes with posh-Vista on his (secondhand) laptop. I was a cheapskate and went with basic-Vista on the 'TV' and I heartily loathe it - took me lots of googling and maybe consultation of the flist to achieve things like renaming/relocating folders. *spits*
emeraldsedai
Dec. 17th, 2008 06:45 am (UTC)
Good to know.

How much of the trouble is just learning-curve, do you think, and how much truly bad design? I remember feeling quite flummoxed by one version of Windows that made radical changes, and of course, they all seem like second nature now.

Good to know one can still GET XP here and there. Sony, alas, is not one such provider, and I'm very interested in their laptops. What to do, what to do...
lamentables
Dec. 17th, 2008 06:52 am (UTC)
Well, the answer to my particular issues was that I needed to set it up so that we are always admin (or whatever) rather than ordinary users. Naturally it gets all nannying about this and tells you that you shouldn't routinely be able to do all these dangerous things like moving folders around. I think I also had to switch off some safety features because it was incessantly asking me if I was sure and if it could have permission to do stuff - it was driving me insane so of course I was okaying everything, making the checks useless.

After doing that, I haven't used it enough to make meaningful comments because it really is just a tv-substitute and storage device (and emergency backup that fortunately hasn't been needed as such).
emeraldsedai
Dec. 17th, 2008 07:02 am (UTC)
Thank you for the feedback. Very useful.
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emeraldsedai
Dec. 17th, 2008 09:17 pm (UTC)
Vista is batting almost .0000 here. Not surprised--it was what I expected to hear, but hoped might not be true.

I did NOT know that about the Ubuntu license. I now wonder if someone will sell me a Sony Vaio and put some other O/S on it.

Thank you for the feedback--both on Vista and the satisfactoriness of Ubuntu. I'm beginning to waver...
korintomichi
Dec. 17th, 2008 08:50 am (UTC)
We bought a great spec cheap PC from a reputable store but were a touch wary that it had Vista installed. We tried to partition the hard drive to put Ubuntu on it as well and it basically threw a wobbly and a large number of functions refused to work. Vista was so damned irritating we returned the PC on the 30 day guarantee and got our money back. We could really do with a new PC but are seriously considering our options based on our experienec with Vista. We'd pay to downgrade to XP and are also considering ditching Windows altogether and following the penguin.
emeraldsedai
Dec. 17th, 2008 09:14 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure I'm geek-woman enough to go the route of the 'guin. It solves the MS annoyance factor, but not the "replace all your software" issue--which will plague me, it seems, whether I go Mac, Ubuntu OR Vista.

Sometimes I think I hate technology, but what I really hate is corporate control.
starfishchick
Dec. 17th, 2008 04:16 pm (UTC)
SFD got a Dell and paid extra to keep XP and NOT get Vista. Everyone I know who uses it HATES IT.
emeraldsedai
Dec. 17th, 2008 09:12 pm (UTC)
You're making me lean heavily towards Dell, even though their laptops are esthetically rather homely compared to the Sony.

Hm...
roseambr
Dec. 17th, 2008 05:35 pm (UTC)
Bob's newer laptop came with Vista, no options available for XP. He has hated it. We had to buy all new programs to be compatible, none of his old ones would work on the new pc. He is always having problems doing stuff on it and loading new pictures into his My Pictures is a nightmare. He never knows where they have loaded, it just does it's thing and then closes the wizard windows. You have to go searching around. It's never the same place twice. Bob has lots of picture folders that he has to go through to find the new ones and then he has to move them where he wanted them in the first place. I've come up with a way for him to do it without loosing them but it takes a lot of fooling around. So, I'm not anxious to go to Vista myself. This old Dell is just going to have to take me a little farther down the road.

Other friends that have had to switch hate it just as much. I've heard no good things about Vista.
emeraldsedai
Dec. 17th, 2008 09:11 pm (UTC)
Wow! That's more damning than I've heard. Thanks for heads-up. I didn't realize you'd partly made the switch at your house. I don't mind learning new stuff, but if I have to buy all new third-party software, fuggeddaboudit.
pennywhistle
Dec. 18th, 2008 12:17 am (UTC)
I got Vista taken off and XP installed when I bought a new laptop last year. Couldn't stand it.
emeraldsedai
Dec. 18th, 2008 03:16 am (UTC)
Wow. So far one "meh" and seven "hated it!"s. I think I have my answer.

Thanks for weighing in.
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